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Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:58 pm
by brian
Have you all been following the retirement plans for the Space Shuttle fleet? After 2010, no more flights. :(

Starting in (hopefully) 2014, they will start using the Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV), sorta like an Apollo capsule on steroids. Here's a peek at its heat shield, to give you an idea of just how 'roided out it is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/p ... html/1.stm :shock:

Wiki says:
Orion is a spacecraft design currently under development by NASA, the space agency of the United States. Each Orion spacecraft will carry a crew of four to six astronauts, and will be launched by the Ares I, a launch vehicle also currently under development. Both Orion and Ares I are elements of NASA's Project Constellation, which plans to send human explorers back to the Moon by 2020, and then onward to Mars and other destinations in the solar system. On August 31, 2006, NASA awarded Lockheed Martin (LM) the contract to design, develop, and build Orion.

Orion will launch from Launch Complex 39 at Kennedy Space Center, the same launch complex that currently launches the Space Shuttle. NASA will use Orion spacecraft for its human spaceflight missions after the last Shuttle orbiter is retired in 2010. Orion is scheduled initially to handle logistic flights to the International Space Station starting at the end of 2014 or beginning of 2015, and after that is to become a key component of missions to the Moon and Mars.
More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_spacecraft

By the way, the Orion logo/mission patch was designed by Star Trek's Michael Okuda:

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:cool:

Here's some info on the Ares I launch system:
Ares I is the crew launch vehicle being developed by NASA as a component of Project Constellation. NASA will use Ares I to launch Orion, the spacecraft being designed for NASA human spaceflight missions after the Space Shuttle is retired in 2010. Ares I was previously known as the Crew Launch Vehicle or CLV. The larger, unmanned Ares V is being designed as a complement to the Ares I; it will be the cargo launch vehicle for Project Constellation. Ares I and V are named after the Greek deity Ares, who is identified with the Roman god Mars.
More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ares_I

A comparison of Ares V (left) and Ares I (right), both of which obviously make use of existing Space Shuttle technology:

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And a size comparison with Saturn V and the Space Shuttle:

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The Ares logo:

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(I don't know who designed this one.)

And finally, the overarching Project Constellation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Constellation

:smile:

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:19 pm
by Henry J
Re "sorta like an Apollo capsule on steroids."

Don't let the FDA find out! ;)

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:44 pm
by lswot
:cool: Kind of SciFi.......don't ya think? :smile:

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:22 pm
by Xjmt
Lawrence Krauss, a professor of physics and astronomy at Case Western Reserve and a SciFi and Star Trek fan is on record as saying he doesn't believe humans could travel further than Mars...if that. All the rest is politics.

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:05 pm
by brian
And Bill Gates said we'd never need more than 640K of program memory for a PC.

And some folks said we'd never break the sound barrier.

Or fly.

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:14 pm
by lswot
:)

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:26 pm
by Xjmt
Who am I supposed to believe, you or Krauss? :rotfl:

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:34 pm
by brian
All I know is I would be extremely reticent to ever publish an opinion that something will never happen, or everything that could possibly happen already has (like that patent office guy did once upon a time, saying everything that could be invented had been... before the invention of such things as automobiles, airplanes and PCs). :shock:

;)

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:18 pm
by lswot
A case of open mouth, insert foot.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:40 pm
by Henry J
Re "All I know is I would be extremely reticent to ever publish an opinion that something will never happen,"

What about squaring the cirlce?

Or finding the largest prime number?

:chase:

Henry

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:44 am
by brian
Who knows. Given enough time (infinity) I may just be able to get there. ;)

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:51 am
by lswot
All things are possible. ......someday. :)

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:50 am
by Xjmt
lswot wrote:All things are possible. ......someday. :)
Except, of course, sex in marriage. :rotfl:


ps news articles state recently that less than half of US marriages include sex and over 70% of British marriages are sans sex. :shock:

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:36 pm
by lswot
ps news articles state recently that less than half of US marriages include sex and over 70% of British marriages are sans sex.

cuts down on the population......... :nano:

Re: Life post Space Shuttle

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:30 pm
by Xjmt
One would think but most of the time it sure doesn't seem so. :cry: